Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Ricci Don't Lose That Number!

That number would be the number assigned to Frank Ricci’s reverse discrimination lawsuit recently heard by the U.S. Supreme Court (07-1428 & 08-328).

Why should this matter, you say?

Well for TWO very important reasons: 1) Frank Ricci is a New Haven, CT firefighter and 2) One of the justices (Sonia Sotomayer) who denied his appeal has just been nominated by President Obama to replace the retiring David Souter.

We have had many discussions on promotions criteria, leadership, qualities of officers and recognizing who’s best for the job. Many feel that it should be based solely on the most qualified as determined by testing. Many have dismissed diversity initiatives as unnecessary in today’s liberal society. Still, others believe that we are not quite there yet and hiring based on ethnic quotas to achieve equality is still necessary.

Please note that while this lawsuit has been going on, the officer positions have been left open and are currently being filled by “acting” officers; some who FAILED the promotions exam!


I find it easy to say that everyone should be treated the same and that’s because I am not prejudice or bigoted in my thoughts. In my mind, race/color/religion should never factor into the equation. But, because of our country’s history, fail safes had to be put into place, even at the expense of other race/color/religions. And to me, THAT is discrimination. If we have to discriminate against one group to eliminate discrimination in another group, then we haven’t stopped it; we have perpetuated it. And that is wrong on many levels.

In the case of Frank Ricci and 20 other New Haven firefighters; they took a promotional exam in 2003 for (7) Captain positions and (8) Lieutenant positions. Based on the results of the testing, no African-Americans would have been promoted, so the Civil Service Board threw out the tests, because they feared a lawsuit by the African-Americans and Hispanics.

It’s interesting to note that the top (15) scores for the Captain’s exam were achieved by (13) whites and (2) Hispanics and the top (15) scores for the Lieutenant’s exam were achieved by (13) whites and (2) African-Americans.

So, Frank Ricci filed a lawsuit, based on the idea that he was not promoted because of his race.
The decision by the Supreme Court should come by the end of June.

The decision should have a precedent-setting impact on the use of racial quotas for filling positions; then using it for promotions.

And as I said; testing should determine the best candidates; period.

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3 comments:

  1. Although I do not agree with the City of New Havens position on the promotions, I'd like to say a few things from a different perspective.

    "Please note that while this lawsuit has been going on, the officer positions have been left open and are currently being filled by “acting” officers; some who FAILED the promotions exam!"

    Has operations suffered ? Has the NHFD ceased to operate ?

    Testing determines a list from which promotions or hiring are made and nothing more. It establishes a list only. No test in the world can determine the ability to operate under emergency situations or the ability to lead someone.

    It is too easy to say discrimination does not occur. Does it happen to both Whites & non-whites ? Of course. I feel it will never stop. It is human nature to feel comfortable with ones own and too easy to blame others unlike ourselves for societies problems.

    How many people claim equality and yet they really have know clue what that really means ? Equality, to me, will be attained when all Americans have the same opportunity . Things such as schools.

    I hear everyday people, and in particular non-colored people, write, say, & publish how we are all afforded the same chances and yet they have never attended the average inner-city school and witnessed what is called "education". the biggest fraud being committed.

    All things start in the home and parents bear the most responsibility for their kids but I ask you if you grew up in the average American City would you still feel the same ?

    How many people now say "Well discrimination is a thing of the past because we have a black president" ? He's of mixed-heritage and was educated in elite schools but in this country let's not forget that when you're born if you have "minority" blood,then you are considered to be of that group. Is that not discrimination in itself ?

    The city of New Haven should have just promoted those guys and the FireBirds should encourage members seeking promotion to study harder but please do not be one of those people who claim to be open minded but then group all minorities into the same group. I know some black fire fighters in New Haven who also do not agree with the cities position and believe it or not we don't all think the same.

    As far as Sotomayer is concerned- "to the victor goes the spoils" let it go McCain lost.

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  2. Although I do not agree with the City of New Havens position on the promotions, I'd like to say a few things from a different perspective.

    "Please note that while this lawsuit has been going on, the officer positions have been left open and are currently being filled by “acting” officers; some who FAILED the promotions exam!"

    Has operations suffered ? Has the NHFD ceased to operate ?

    Testing determines a list from which promotions or hiring are made and nothing more. It establishes a list only. No test in the world can determine the ability to operate under emergency situations or the ability to lead someone.

    It is too easy to say discrimination does not occur. Does it happen to both Whites & non-whites ? Of course. I feel it will never stop. It is human nature to feel comfortable with ones own and too easy to blame others unlike ourselves for societies problems.

    How many people claim equality and yet they really have know clue what that really means ? Equality, to me, will be attained when all Americans have the same opportunity . Things such as schools.

    I hear everyday people, and in particular non-colored people, write, say, & publish how we are all afforded the same chances and yet they have never attended the average inner-city school and witnessed what is called "education". the biggest fraud being committed.

    All things start in the home and parents bear the most responsibility for their kids but I ask you if you grew up in the average American City would you still feel the same ?

    How many people now say "Well discrimination is a thing of the past because we have a black president" ? He's of mixed-heritage and was educated in elite schools but in this country let's not forget that when you're born if you have "minority" blood,then you are considered to be of that group. Is that not discrimination in itself ?

    The city of New Haven should have just promoted those guys and the FireBirds should encourage members seeking promotion to study harder but please do not be one of those people who claim to be open minded but then group all minorities into the same group. I know some black fire fighters in New Haven who also do not agree with the cities position and believe it or not we don't all think the same.

    As far as Sotomayer is concerned- "to the victor goes the spoils" let it go McCain lost.

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